M/M only

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01bw_167As most of you know, this site is M/M only, which means that we review books with gay male protagonists who end up together. However, I continue to get requests from authors to review books which have some hetero content. The authors’ rationale is that if the protags  ultimately get their HEAs there should not be a problem accepting their books for review. In view of this I would like to clarify my M/M policy.

If a book has one or both of the protagonists in sexual situations with women, that to me is not male/male. If one of the guys has a girlfriend on the side and they are having sex in the book, again that is not male/male in my definition, even if ultimately the guys have a HEA. Sometimes one of the protags in the books is bisexual, transgender or straight (as in Gay for You books) but he has switched his sexual orientation –  as long as there is no on-page  sex between him and a female or partner in the book it can be submitted as M/M for review on this site. In the past this site has been asked to review stories where a relationship is developing between the two main male characters, but there are secondary pairings with a female or transgendered person as part of the couple reaching their HEA. To me that is not a true M/M book. Others may disagree

I have approached a few M/M publishers and asked them whether they could indicate on their websites or in the book blurbs if there is M/F content in their M/M stories and I hope that’s possible in the future so that we’re not blindsided; it should be a pretty simple matter to do this in the blurbs. A few publishers already do e.g. Amber Allure gives the best information re the content of their M/M books so that the reader always knows ahead of time what to expect before they buy. Why is this important? On some occasions reviewers have returned books to me as DNF because there were women in sexual situations with the gay men in the M/M books and there was no ‘heads up’. I still get requests to review books that have M/M/F or M/F/M content, and neither the blurbs nor the publishers provide this information beforehand. If I know about the content ahead of time I would not request some books for review.

98% of review sites review a full range of romance books and these sites would be happy, I’m sure, to review any adult themed romance books that fit within their criteria. This site does not review F/F, menage (except for M/M/M), transgender, hetero,  bisexual, M/M/F or M/F/M books.

Why do I feel that this post is necessary? One author has accused this site of being biased because she felt that she didn’t get a fair review of her M/M/F book (which was classified as M/M by the publisher). I had to point out that regardless of our personal feelings, all of the reviewers here are fair in their reviews and ratings, whether or not we have a favourite sub genre such as paranormal, mystery, sports, etc.  If we don’t want to review a book it would simply be DNF.

At least 95% of the readers who access this site are what I call “pure” M/M readers, which means that they prefer their books not to have females in romantic or sexual situations with the protagonists i.e. no  M/M/F and M/F/M books. I consider myself a ‘pure’ M/M reader and when I’m reading M/M books for pleasure or review and I’m surprised by M/F content, the book is usually a DNF. I read all kinds of general fiction and non fiction and have no problem with women in these books - I am female and I like to read about other women, I just prefer not to have them in sexual situations in my M/M books. Recently I did a post with Sean Kennedy and Jenre about the lack of positive female characters in M/M books and we all decried the current trend of some authors who portray women in M/M books as manipulative bitches, whores, etc. I’m not against women in M/M books, I just prefer not to have them in sexual situations with the protagonists.

I hope that this clarifies my M/M policy. There is no intention on my part to in any way denigrate any sub genre – this is simply a preference for a certain type of book to review on this site, and I hope this post will save authors from submitting their books to the wrong site. I do, however, welcome your M/M books for review. Thanks guys!

57 thoughts on “M/M only

  1. Jenre

    Well said, Wave.
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    It’s been said before, but this is your blog and you’ve always made it very clear that you review m/m books only. If publishers are going to pass books onto you for review – even if you have requested them – then they need to make it clear if there is any sexual content other than m/m or m/m/m menage. That way you can say ‘thanks, but no thanks’. If they don’t, and especially if they don’t flag up any m/f or m/f/m menage in a book on their site then they shouldn’t complain if a reviewer is annoyed at finding unwanted sexual content in what should be an m/m only book.

    1. Wave Post author

      Jen
      I just got tired of defending myself. Some authors are very understanding, but I (and other reviewers – Kassa for example) have had situations where fully 1/3 of the book is M/F. Facade by Zahra Owens was the most recent example. One author had an entire series which she considered M/M but again, when Kassa read part of the first book, she returned it to me because it was mostly M/F.

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      It says clearly on the website that we review M/M only so I didn’t think I had to make it any clearer, but apparently I did.

  2. Merwan

    Amen! Very well put. I’m also one of those who don’t like m/f in my m/m reading. Nothing wrong with it, just not my thing.

    1. Wave Post author

      Hi Merwan
      That is the point. I don’t like M/F in my M/M books, if I did I would read het. I have a couple of series that I follow which are M/F but I don’t review them on the site. There are a few books that I reviewed for another site 2 years ago that I posted on the old blog when I left, and I’m considering whether I should delete them altogether because they are not consistent with this policy. That site reviewed very few M/M at the time which is one of the reasons I left.

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      I’m with you , when I read M/M then I don’t want women in the books changing the dynamics or having babies.:)

  3. Tam

    I guess until you start being one of their employees and are forced to read what they tell you, you can read/review whatever you like. I’m sure there are some blogs who refuse to review m/m and no one is insisting they do.
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    I prefer m/m to be m/m. I don’t mind if they make reference to having sex with a woman (because some guys are/do) but I don’t want a play by play description of it happening. If I’m in the mood for that there is plenty of m/f I can read. It’s just a personal choice, everybody has one.

    1. Wave Post author

      Tam
      This is why I could not be an editor because I would only want to read the type of books I enjoy. One blog that I reviewed for about 3 years ago did not review any M/M so I left very shortly after I joined. Another one had so few M/M that it was always a fight which reviewer would get to review them – another short lived reviewing stint!:)

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      Books that have M/F off page are fine, I just don’t want to read page after page of hetero sex (it’s hard enough for me to read an M/M book if it’s 50% sex).

  4. Ingrid

    You are absolutely right there Wave. This is still your personal site. You can do with it as you please. (and we just have to put up with it, don’t we hate that!)
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    There are so many other sites out there that do review het and menage books. Just let them do their thing and please please keep doing yours.
    If I do want to read a het book than I know where to go and that is not here.

    1. Wave Post author

      Hi Ingrid
      Even though my name on the site I don’t regard it as my personal site. I try to accommodate the regulars and other readers and I frequently have polls (another one is on the way tomorrow if Christian can show me how to do it on this site):) to ask what you guys want on the site.
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      However this issue of how much m/f content is tolerable in an m/m book has got to the point where it’s giving me a headache. Explaining doesn’t seem to work. I try to explain until I’m blue in the face, that except for maybe 2% of review sites, all of them review a full range of romance books and I don’t do het or menage or a book that’s 25% – 50% anything but M/M.

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      I hope this works.

  5. LadyM

    When I’m reading an M/M story, I want an M/M story exclusively. Not the story set in unreal world where everyone is male and gay, but story focused on men and their relationship. Before I purchase a book I read the reviews and blurbs carefully and, if I’m buying gay romance, I avoid the books with m/f sex. This was one of the reasons why I skipped the latest Heaven Sent installment (the other reason was ménage, but that’s another issue).
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    However, like with everything else in life, there are exceptions. I’ve read a longer series which included one short het story (explicit) and one f/f story (hinted) and I didn’t mind, because the het story was set in the past and it was important for development of the main character – it explained one of his most important relationships in the present. The f/f story focused on supporting characters which were also important for the overall story. But, the exceptions are still only that – exceptions. The main focus of 98% of that series was still a male couple.
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    Like people said, this is your site and what you review or not is your prerogative. There are many other sites which focus on het romances which, I’m sure, would be more than happy to review m/f, m/f/m, (insert combination here) books.

    1. Ingrid

      LadyM, I just know which stories you referring to. I did not mind there because there was a warning on the site.

    2. Wave Post author

      Hi LadyM
      Like you I didn’t read or review Revelations, the latest HS book because it was a menage. This was the only book set in the HS world that I didn’t read.

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      Of course there are exceptions. There are books where a man was married and started a new life with another man. This is not what I’m talking about – my issue is that an increasing number of M/M books have between 15 – 40% of the story focused on an M/F relationship. In that case as far as I’m concerned it’s not an M/M book.

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      As I mentioned earlier I read all kinds of books – I just don’t review them here unless they are M/M. There are so many romance review sites which concentrate almost exclusively on het romances that I don’t see this as a problem. This is a very small site and I didn’t think the fact that we only review M/M books was a big issue. I have reviewed books with lesbian supporting characters except there was no explicit F/F sex. There is no gaytopia and there are many female characters in M/M books which is the way it should be.

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      I think the point I’m trying to make is that right at the top of the site it says that”this website reviews male/male adult themed romance books” so this is not something new.

  6. Angelia Sparrow

    Your blog. Your choice.
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    I guess I’m just impure. I’ll read anything, GLBT or het or any combo. If the story is good, I’m there. I’m not entirely an m/m writer but I am not a gay writer either. I write genre fiction with sex in it, and GLBT characters. The B and T are not decorative in my world. There’s enough bi and trans invisibility in my reality that I don’t want it in my fiction.

  7. Ingrid

    I hope it does.
    I like it just the way it is. Loads of books, some related posts, the pics, guest appearances. I guess I should save that for tomorrow. But don’t worry I will be happy to type it again.

  8. Wave Post author

    Angelia
    A lot of writers, like you, write all types of fiction, including M/M romances. However, recently there’s been an increase in M/M books with M/F content sent here for review, with a corresponding increase in DNF books.

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    The thing is that there are many sites that review a full range of romance books, and this is one of the very few sites that reviews only M/M. Surely that’s not taking anything away from anyone if only about 2% of review sites decide to restrict their reviews to M/M books? I don’t review BLTQ books on the site – however I support many GBLTQ causes financially and I allow authors and other readers to post on GBLTQ issues that they feel strongly about.

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    I read het and other types of genre fiction, I just don’t review the books on the site because it’s an M/M site. Many het romance sites review very few, if any M/M books. As a matter of fact until recently some of them didn’t review any M/M books at all. I feel strongly that there should be a place where readers can go and know that the books reviewed are M/M books. There are many gay men who email me to say how much they appreciate that there’s a place online where they can find reviews of gay literature or M/M romance books.

  9. Aunt Lynn

    Very clear, Wave. I am currently reading M/M almost exclusively, mostly because of work for this site is all M/M and my reading time is taken up with it. Not that I’m complaining at all as I wouldn’t be offering review services if I didn’t like the material. :) When reading books in this genre, I do not want females interacting sexually — especially explicitly — with my boys as they to get to their HEA. I am one of the ones here who has been blindsided and have been called bad names because of the mixed review of a book where a sexual relationship with a woman was included without warning. I would have tactfully declined had I known, but I didn’t. As it’s been discussed here, there are plenty of review sites for het, menage, and any other combo you can think of, so asking pubs and authors to respect your limitation to M/M only seems absolutely reasonable to me.

    1. Wave Post author

      Hi Lynn
      I know the situation about which you speak.:(
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      I’m not sure that authors realize how many “pure” M/M readers there are. There are so many sites that review het or menage romance books or other types of BLTQ romance books so it shouldn’t matter if this site is exclusively M/M.

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      I just don’t want to be blindsided any more so I decided it was time to speak up.

      1. Aunt Lynn

        I forgot to say, as others have, that my exception are historicals, which, for numerous reasons, one/both of the heroes gets involved sexually with — even marries — a woman. I bring this up because the book I just finished is like that. Did I like it, no; was believable to me and I understood why the protag did it? Yes. And if it does happen, I want it to be non-explicit, which thankfully it was (actually, the entire book was interestingly non-explicit).

        1. Wave Post author

          Lynn

          “I forgot to say, as others have, that my exception are historicals, which, for numerous reasons, one/both of the heroes gets involved sexually with — even marries — a woman”

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          I made exactly this same point here

          “I try to be as fair and scrupulous as I can and I know that one sub genre – historical – will have problems because in those days men did not marry other men – they had marriages of convenience with women to keep the farce alive and save themselves from going to the gallows. As long as M/M historical books have no on-page sex between the men and their “wives” then I can see no reason why they can’t be reviewed on this site.”

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          So we’re on the same page with historical M/M romances. This is perfectly legitimate and as along as there’s no on page sex the books fit within the M/M category.

  10. NL Gassert

    Seriously? People complain? Holy cow. Why would authors send their M/F stuff to a site that reviews M/M exclusively? Hello? I’m not sending my M/M work to M/F sites. No, I’m with you, Wave, and I don’t think you can state your policy any plainer.

    I love coming here precisely because I know I won’t be blindsided and don’t have to sift through all of that ménage stuff to find pure, quality M/M novels. Thanks for sticking to your guns, Wave.

    Much love and Happy Halloween.

    Nadja

    1. Wave Post author

      Hi Nadja
      Thanks for your support.
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      Yes authors do complain even though I suggest they take their books to the many other review sites that are not exclusively M/M. I also explain that this site is not an ideal niche for their menage or 40% het books that are masquerading as M/M, because the reviewers would be forced to provide a warning about the content, at which point they get pissed.

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      Happy Halloween and where is book 2?*g*

  11. clovermax

    There really are very few sites that are m/m only for review. And yes I read virtually everything but when I read m/f I want one couple only not bouncing athletically between beds and others- and ditto m/m- I like to see the relationships develop and broaden with the characters developing as they go through life. When I spend my hard earned dollars (and with my boss they are very hard earned) I like being able to obtain books I dont want to throw against a wall – kills the electronic medium. So thank you for being deliberate and clear as to what you review. Makes me a better informed buyer and more likely to buy from that author or publisher again. I thank you are offering a very beneficial site.

    1. Wave Post author

      Thanks for the support Clovermax. I appreciate it.

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      Most of the bloggers who access this site know that we review only M/M, so if we were to change the rules to please a few authors our credibility would be in the toilet.

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      As you said, there are very few sites that review exclusively M/M – I could probably count them on the fingers of one hand, and I don’t want to deprive the readers of the pleasure of coming to a site that caters to their sub genre. Most authors are very understanding, but there’s just a few of them who take this is a personal slight against them.

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      This site has always been M/M except when it was first set up and I posted reviews that I had done for other blogs as “filler” because I had to build up the number of posts on the blog. Since then, except very briefly because of a reviewer who posted reviews of her own books which included a few menage books, the site has been exclusively M/M, so this is not news.

  12. Sloan Parker

    Very well said, Wave. I appreciate there being a review site for m/m exclusively and thank you and your reviewers for all the hard work you put into it. I do read some het and ménage occasionally, but I mostly read m/m romances these days. It’s nice to have a site that focuses on m/m reviews so I don’t have to wade through all the other books to find ones that are of interest to me. It’s one of the reasons I follow this site. It’s nice to know that won’t be changing.
    Sloan

    1. Wave Post author

      Hi Sloan
      Thanks for your support.

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      I think every reader deserves to have a place where they can go to read reviews in their favourite sub genre, and if by restricting this site to only M/M books I piss off a few authors, so be it.

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      The only books that are slightly different are historical books because in those times men had to marry so that their lust for other men was not disclosed, or they would be put to death. Different times, different solutions. However 99% of these books do not contain explicit sex between between the man and his wife, so they fit the definition of no “on-page” sex.

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      I’m glad to hear that you will continue to come by the site.:)

  13. Lily

    Well said, Wave. This is your blog and as such your rules. I’m a M/M reader and absolutely hate being blindsided with M/F sex in my reading. It’s happened a few times in the past couple of months and really pissed me off. Pubs definitely need to disclose that information.

    1. Wave Post author

      Hi Lily

      By the way, congratulations on your new gig as a reviewer for Rainbow Reviews. *g*

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      Thanks for stopping by and supporting me. You have been with me since the early days and I really appreciate you.

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      I had to do something because so many M/M books now seem to contain an element of M/F sex and I don’t understand why publishers are pushing the boundaries. We had a book recently which Kassa reviewed that caused a lot of furore because there was so much M/F and M/M/F sex in it. Neither she nor I had any idea, so we were both blindsided. I think the pubs don’t disclose the information because if they did most M/M readers would not buy their books, so there is a financial advantage for them not doing so!

  14. junkfoodmonkey

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable, since the books reviewed here are mostly in the romance genre and romance readers are very used to knowing exactly what they are getting. Take a look at how stratified the category romances are, into series, into different levels of explicitness. A reader of historicals would justifiably get ticked off if the Regency hero suddenly turned out to be a werewolf, or a reader of a book that’s supposed to to a sweet romance will be annoyed if she finds the hero and heroine shagging like bunnies on page 2.
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    I’ll bet if Harlequin/Mills & Boon got into the m/m market (I can dream!) you’d be able to pick up something they marked as m/m with total confidence because with their long experience they understand that readers want the books correctly classified. Possibly newer publishers don’t really get this yet.
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    If I pick up a book that’s just a drama, gay or not, and not classified as romance, then anything goes, I can’t complain about being surprised. But when reading romance, there is that expectation that it’s been correctly classified. That’s just the way that genre works. Maybe that’s because there’s just SO MUCH published every year in romance that the reader needs a way to filter out the books that will appeal to them most. m/m doesn’t have enough published to have that issue… yet.

    1. charmed

      Harlequin is in the m/m market. They just always keep there brands very distinct, hence Luna publishing in the fantasy section and Carina Press for M/M and menage. It’s very new but one of there firsts was Harper Fox’s Life After Joe, how’s that for getting off to a good start.

      1. Wave Post author

        Charmed
        This post was written 2 years ago before Carina was established and their line is quite distinct from Harlequin, even though they are part of the Harlequin publishing family. All of Harper Fox’s books are reviewed on the site. :)

        1. charmed

          oops my bad i wasn’t checking dates. I love Harper Fox and i’ll definitly take a look at the reviews of her work.
          A friend of the families works at Harlequin and her and her team were responsible for creating Carina so i heard a lot about the process of creating the site and the distinct(from harlequin) brand over dinner. It was kind of fasinating, hearing about how carful they are with the Harlequin brand and how much brand loyalty there is, sinse in most circles saying a book is like a Harlequin isn’t always a compliment. But overall i think it’s similar to what your doing with this post making sure people know what the’re going to get. Keeping the expectations clear.

  15. Larissa

    Well that just goes to show that you can’t make everyone happy and if they don’t like it, they can start their own blog ;-) Go Wave!!!

    1. Wave Post author

      You said it Larissa – I have to do what I think is best for the majority of readers on the site and the group of people on whom this sub genre is based – gay men. I can’t please everyone and I know that some authors will be angry but that’s life.

  16. Teddypig

    I have to say this old gay guy loves me some Samantha Kane M/M/F.

    Her Brothers In Arms series is juicy!

    Anyway, you go Wave and set your boundaries I can understand why.

    1. Wave Post author

      TP
      I, too, love Samantha’s Brothers in Arms series – that and probably Jet Mykles’ Leashed paranormal M/M/F series are the only two menage series that I read. However, they are menage and don’t fit the profile of the site. I did review 2 books in Jet’s series a long time ago when I was reviewing for another blog and the reviews are posted here, but they eventually will be coming down along with all the old M/F reviews.

      I love Samantha’s M/M book Islands – if you haven’t read it you should.:)

      A number of things prompted this post and I realize that I will get some grief from it, but c’est la vie.

  17. K. Z. Snow

    What defines m/m romance for me is the answer to this question: Who ends up with whom at the end? That’s somewhat simplistic, since I do have other criteria, but that’s pretty much what it boils down to.
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    As long as there isn’t a lopsided emphasis on romance and/or sex involving a woman/women (and it’s clear the story’s emotional content is grounded in the men’s relationship), and as long as the ending doesn’t involve a mixed menage (UGH), I don’t mind if females play a role in the plot. Really, it’s all about a.) primary focus and b.) the nature of the conclusion. The only plot element I truly can’t stomach is when a woman is made an integral part of the men’s relationship. That’s when, for me, a defining boundary has been crossed.
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    Not every gay man knows/admits to himself from childhood or puberty on that he’s gay . . . or settles comfortably into his sexuality even if he is aware of it. I see nothing “offensive” about examining the journey some men must take before coming home to themselves. Same is true of lesbians, transsexuals, or anybody whose orientation isn’t strictly het.

    1. Wave Post author

      KZ
      As you know this has been an issue for me for some time re which books can be considered M/M in the context of reviewing them on the site.

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      Your definition is of M/M is –

      “Who ends up with whom at the end. That’s somewhat simplistic, since I do have other criteria, but that’s pretty much what it boils down to.”

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      Your definition means that there can be any amount of M/F sex in an M/M book but it could still be considered M/M because the guys end up together.

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      My definition is in the post and the reason for this is because there are some books where at least 1/4 or 1/3 of the content includes M/F sex. There has been a gradual “creep” in this direction and it’s getting to the point where readers have sent me emails complaining about the amount of M/F content in “their” M/M books and between “their” men, particularly books that have been reviewed on the site.

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      The major issue is that some publishers do not label their books correctly and one of the reasons I like Amber Allure, an M/M publisher, is that they give the readers this information very clearly. Here’s an example of what they say on their website

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      Curse of the Pharaoh’s Manicurists by Angelia Sparrow and Naomi Brooks
      Genres: Gay / Paranormal / Ghosts / Hauntings / Historical / Action / Adventure / BDSM / Contains Some Heterosexual And Ménage (M/M/F) Content

      To Taste the Dawn by Jamie Craig
      Genres: Gay / Ménage (M/M/F) / Bisexuality (M/M) / Dark Fantasy / Vampire / BDSM / Exhibitionism / Public Places / Series

      Pirates Do It With Passion by Mimi Riser
      Genres: Paranormal / Ghosts / Hauntings / Action / Adventure / BDSM / Pirates / Suspense / Thriller / Ménage (M/M/F) / Group Sex / Bisexual (M/M) / Series

      Doggone Love by Deirdre O’Dare
      Genres: Gay / Contemporary / Cowboys / Western (Modern Day) / Ménage (M/M/F) / Series

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      If all publishers do this the readers won’t be surprised when they buy an M/M book. It’s a case of getting what you pay for.

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      Reviewers are readers first and I have many situations where books have been returned to me as DNF because the publishers did not do their job. They can definitely indicate in the blurbs where there is M/F content – that won’t be hard to do – the reason some of them don’t is because they don’t want to lose sales to M/M readers. If I know ahead of time about the M/F content I simply would not request a book for review.

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      One book that was reviewed on the site recently had brief M/F content. It wasn’t a book I sent out for review but the guest reviewer, in good faith, reviewed the book which she owned. When she realized that the M/F content in book would be a problem for readers, she very quickly placed a warning on the post. This will happen less in the future since 97% of the books reviewed here are sent out by me to the guest reviewers, however, I can only go by the publishers’ blurbs or website information, which we know can be incorrect.

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      You have no idea the number of emails that I receive on this one topic alone which is the #1 reason that readers are dissatisfied with M/M. I decided to clarify my policy so that authors are aware of it. I try to be as fair and scrupulous as I can and I know that one sub genre – historical – will have problems because in those days men did not marry other men – they had marriages of convenience with women to keep the farce alive and save themselves from going to the gallows. As long as M/M historical books have no on-page sex between the men and their “wives” then I can see no reason why they can’t be reviewed on this site.

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      It’s not simply a matter of who ends up with whom as you said, it’s the journey. In GFY books or those where the men were bisexual and previously married, I would say that 98% of the books that have been reviewed here have no ongoing sex with women – the men have either broken up with their girlfriends, or their wives are dead, or there is some other convenient “absence” of a female in their lives.

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      This is an area that is probably not an issue for other sites but it is important to me because it’s the prime reason for this site – romances between gay men. We review M/M romances, gay literature, and discuss issues that impact on gay men. I made a deliberate decision to just stay with M/M and not review BLTQ books although I support GBLTQ causes.

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      Of course we like to have fun here as well which is why I love having you on the site KZ.

  18. Pia Veleno

    I come here for the M/M content. I like that you don’t add in some of these other stories. On other sites, these other stories are distracting, and often I can’t tell what kind of review I’m reading until I’ve wasted my time on a book I probably wouldn’t purchase since I do prefer strict M/M content.

    As the others have said, it’s your blog, and you do a great job with the M/M category!

    1. Wave Post author

      Thanks Pia
      I really appreciate your support. This site is for people like yourself who want their M/M books to be just that, books with gay men who are in love and are trying to achieve their HEA, without the distraction of female lovers being thrown into the mix.

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      There are obviously other gay books reviewed on the site, but I’m trying to ensure that books with M/F content are either not reviewed at all or are highlighted as to the % of M/F content. What I aim for is no on-page M/F sex.

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      There are exceptions of course, like in everything, and I have noted those either in my comments or in the post.

  19. TC Blue

    I agree, both as a reader and an author, Wave. There’s nothing quite as off-putting as settling down with a new M/M book I’ve been looking forward to reading and finding explicit M/F or M/M/F, etc. content.

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    I DO read het and menage, because I read all sorts of things, but I prefer not to be blindsided with M/F in whatever combination.

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    To be fair, I’ve been known to write things like “She stuck her hand down my pants and grabbed me… and I’ve never run so fast in my life. I was just lucky she didn’t have a better grip or I’d be experiencing a huge change-of-life right now.” But in the event of actual M/F relationships in my M/M, the door closes before anyone gets naked, as it should. :)

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    M/M should be just that. The readers of this site know what to expect when they come here looking for reviews so one would think authors and publishers would also be aware.

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    Keep doing what you and yours are doing. It’s a great site and frankly, those who don’t choose to READ THE DAMNED BANNER have no room to bitch at not getting what they want.

    1. Wave Post author

      TC
      Thank you so much for endorsing what I’m trying to do on this site. I, too, read other sub genres and I follow series that are M/F or M/M/F, but for review on the site I must stick to M/M.

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      I thought that was clear on the banner but apparently not, or maybe some authors think that it doesn’t apply to their books. IDK. This has been a constant struggle and was on the old blog as well. Some authors get downright ugly when I tell them why their books can’t be reviewed here.:( However, I’m hoping that gradually authors will understand what I mean when I say M/M only, and also appreciate the views of the M/M readers who come by here to check out the reviews..

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      As I said before, as long as there’s no on page sex with women in the M/M books I have no problem with a kiss or something like that, as long as there’s a purpose to it to advance the plot.

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      I’m an M/M purist but I do understand that historical books have major challenges because of the times and the severity of the punishment if caught, so most men in those days had marriages in name only which could involve a kiss or two in public to save face.

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      As an author I appreciate your support TC.

  20. Duhaunt

    Just came upon this one I agree with you wave,, I don’t know why it should be a big deal… after all its your blog, even if you did have someone review the M/M/F or whatever combination .. I would not read them, :) sorry haven;t been on more trying to get through graduate school… I truly enjoy your blog as is! :grin:

    1. Wave Post author

      Hi Duhaunt
      Thanks for commenting and welcome back. :)I understand about the pressures of graduate school so just drop by when you can.

      It seems that some authors do have a problem with this policy because they insist on including M/F scenes in their M/M books and then get pissed at me when I tell them we won’t review their books. They don’t care about our concerns – I’m sure if they wrote het romances they wouldn’t include M/M scenes because they have more respect for het readers. :(

  21. Alex King

    So much transphobia coming from the very people who claim to be our allies… It’s heart-breaking :sad:

    1. Wave Post author

      This was posted almost 3 years ago and is simply a clarification of the types of books reviewed on this site.

      1. Alex King

        You haven’t removed or amended it, so I suppose you still stand by it?

        What the majority sees as a simple clarification in policy can be experienced by the ostracized minority as painful – even if accidental – discrimination. As a Black person, I imagine you must be only too familiar with this phenomenon?

          1. Alex King

            Would you say the same to a person of color hurt by racism? Or a gay person hurt by homophobia? There’s transphobia in this post here, what is wrong with challenging it?

            1. Wave Post author

              As Ingrid said, the review policy on this site has been in effect for a number of years. As I have stated before, I have no plans to change it. If/when I do I will write another post.

              There are thousands of review sites that review the full range of adult books – this doesn’t happen to be one of them. BTW this is not the only site that has a policy of only reviewing M/M books, mine just happens to be explicit.

              Please don’t try to tell me about discrimination.

              If you would like to have books reviewed that are outside the policy on this site I’m sure there are other sites that would be happy to accommodate you.

              1. Alex King

                It appears there has been a misunderstanding. I don’t have any beef with your policy in itself, but only with its wording. I don’t see anything wrong with wanting to review only gay romance between cis men. What I have a problem with is using transphobic wording to express this policy.

                I also make no demands that you expand what you review. Trans characters are not your thing and that’s fine with me. But using transphobic words and arguments to justify your preference is not fine.

                Hopefully this makes my position a bit clearer?

                1. Wave Post author

                  I refuse to discuss the issue of trans characters and the wording in my policy, since more than enough has been said about this matter on the site. In case you missed it here’s a link to my post:

                  http://tinyurl.com/bqlv5gs

                  Thank you for writing.

                  1. Alex King

                    You refuse to discuss an issue where you discriminated against a minority.

                    You link to a post where you don’t allow comments.

                    Do you realise how close-minded you are acting here? Closing down a conversation when you are the oppressing, privileged one in power, is not something I would have expected from someone running such a site. This is more than just a little disappointing.

                    1. Wave Post author

                      Did you read the other posts that are linked? Apparently you haven’t or you would not have said that I refused to discuss this matter. I discussed it at length at that time and I am not going over old ground that has already been discussed ad nauseum. If you read the other posts you will find my comments.

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