M/M/M – Is It The New Gay Romance?

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The first M/M/M romance that I read was in 2005, Chris Owen’s fabulous 911 about three men (a firefighter, a doctor, and an EMT) struggling with the blows thrown at them by life. I have read this book too many times to count and it’s among my Top Ten all-time reads. The reasons I love it so much are the emotions which are so palpable, as well as the wonderful characterizations. The sex is incredible of course because this is a Chris Owens’ book after all, but that’s only a small part of why I love, love, love this book and it has nothing to do with three men in a relationship.

Now on to today’s topic. I have been noticing recently that there are increasing numbers of gay romances starring three protagonists, and I’m wondering if this will be the new normal for M/M romance; not that there is anything wrong with that, but what do you think? Do you like M/M/M romances?

I will be reviewing MORE by Sloan Parker which was released today. This is a “free” book generously donated by the author to a lucky reader on the site. I don’t know  anything about the writing but when I post my review you’ll read my opinion about this book – it’s pretty long  so it will take me awhile to read and review it. MORE is one of the new breed of M/M/M gay romances, some of which are definitely better than others and quite a few of them are, if I can use the word, b-o-r-i-n-g. I’m hoping that this book will fall into the ‘better’ category because this is a new M/M author and it’s a tough plot for a debut. I’m not going to name names but a lot of the M/M/M books that I’ve read recently should be burned because there were no plots and the stories were just excuses for more sex and hijinks. I love sex in gay romances just as much as the next reader, but I want a story to go along with it.

 Has M/M/M replaced M/M/F or M/F/M? I’m all for M/M/M menages replacing the ones with females who have sex with the heroes in M/M books. Anyone who has read my posts knows how I feel about women coming between the gay protagonists. Sorry, I don’t mean to offend female readers (I am, after all, a woman) but no ‘girl cooties’ in my M/M romance books. Ewww! However, I would like M/M/M stories to be romances and not just a sex fest, unless I’m reading porn. Most of us who read gay romances are looking for  stories that have credible plots with engaging characters that will move us, and I’m hoping that if M/M/M is a new direction in this sub genre that the writers will give readers the type of stories we can go back to again and again as comfort reads rather than one hand reads©. :)

I can count on the fingers of one hand those M/M/M stories that I really love. Chris Owen’s (she’s such a fabulous writer) Gemini is another favourite about twins Paul and Jamie and the man they love, Gent, who gets more than he bargained for - two for the price of one. Sean Michael also wrote two terrific M/M/M books – The Center of Earth and Sky and Painting the Desert about twins Grey and Raine and the man they loved, Whit, a schoolteacher. At first this was mostly a sex romp (I think Tam said that the books had bucketsful of cum) :) because Sean loves to write about sex, but then the plot became serious when Grey was diagnosed with cancer and everything fell apart for this threesome, but their love was the glue that held them together. I thought these two books exemplified what I love best about this author – he sure can write, whether it’s about love, life or sex!

Katrina Strauss’s wonderful Blue Ruin series includes two M/M/M menages – BR 2: Close To Me with Blue and Derek adding Cameron, the former bully to the mix, and BR 4: Need You Tonight with Blue, Derek and a new love, Dusty.

Of course there are many other well written M/M/M romances and I’m sure you have your favourites, but some of the books appear to be just excuses for more, more, more sex, three men = more time between the sheets. My friend Batboy once told me that the reason there is more sex between gay men than between a man and a woman is because there are two dicks in play, so I guess it follows that 3 guys would spend more time in bed. I read a few M/M/M romances recently that were so bad they made me think briefly about going back to reading het romances, however that was just a momentary lapse so don’t hold it against me. :)

What do you think about M/M/M romance, which seems to be gathering steam? Do you have any favourite  M/M/M reads?

Is ‘traditional’ gay romance on the way out? I sure hope not because even though I love, love, love 911 and a few other M/M/M romances, I still prefer to read about two men in a relationship.

The floor is open for your comments.

50 thoughts on “M/M/M – Is It The New Gay Romance?

  1. Ingrid

    I truly hope not Wave. I also noticed an influx in m/m/m and although they can be nice for the variation, I like “traditionel” romance better. Just 2 persons on their way to a HEA.
    Also good menage books are hard to find. For the me third person does not always work well.

    I am guilty of reading Two for the team by Jet Mykkles which starts as a m/f/m and ends as m/m. I am completly done with girl cooties in my romance books otherwise!

    1. Wave Post author

      Ingrid
      I have nothing against these books and it seems that publishers and writers are trending this way. My main concern and hope is that they do not dilute the M/M ‘brand’ which is about love between gay men in a “romance.”

      I love Jet Mykles’ writing but I passed on her two most recent M/F/M – Revelations and Two for the Team because I haven’t read an M/M/F or M/F/M in a long time, even from a favourite author. Chris Owens did one about 9 months ago and I didn’t read or review it for that reason – no interest.

    2. JenB

      I love m/m/m. But y’all know I also like m/f, m/m/f, m/f/m, f/f, f/f/m, f/m/f, m/m, etc. ;)

      I don’t see m/m/m “replacing” anything. There’s just more of it coming out lately.

      The more authors, pubs, and readers, the more we’ll see all types of books.

      And who knows if you all will even care about this stat, but of the many, many books I worked on from the beginning of 4th quarter 2009 to now, only one was about a long-term M/M/M relationship and one other had a couple of multi-guy “play” scenes.

      I see more m/f and m/f/m than anything else, with a bit of m/m and m/m/f as well.

  2. LadyM

    I have to have really strong incentive to read M/M/M, because the number of books I liked is very, very low. I find it hard to believe in the relationship, even in highly recommended books (such as 911, for example). Bound to Please was somewhat different because of the D/s element. More often than not, I’ll give m/m/m a pass, unless there is something else in the plot that I find interesting. I’m more inclined to give a try to other ‘unconventional’ relationships (like the one described in A.M. Riley’s books – two pairs, M/M/M/M). I’m still waiting for THE m/m/m book. the one which will completely satisfy the romance reader in me. Until then – I’m pretty much sticking to the traditional romance.

    1. Wave Post author

      LadyM
      If the books are well written and they are true romances I don’t mind them. As I said in the post 911 is one of my Top Ten all time gay romances.

      But it seems that whether or not readers agree, this is a new direction for gay romances, going by the sheer numbers of M/M/M books that are being released.

      If the stories are credible and they are romances I have no argument because I have enjoyed a few of these books, however many of the recent entrants seem to use 3 men in a relatiionship as an excuse to add more sex to books which already contain a lot.

    2. Alexi

      I agree with you completely – so could I make a recommendation to you? ‘The Strongest Shape’ by Tessa Cardenas is the *only* m/m/m novel where I have been completely convinced by a triad relationship. I’m not even completely convinced by ‘Gemini’, although I loved it.

      I think it’s because in ‘The Strongest Shape’ the author shows that adding the third person to the relationship changes the dynamic between the two existing lovers for the better, and there’s a real sense that all three people in the relationship are individuals, rather than a couple plus one. I didn’t read this book expecting much, but I was really surprised by it. If you’re still looking for The One, this could be it.

    3. Alexi

      I agree with you completely – so could I make a recommendation to you? ‘The Strongest Shape’ by Tessa Cardenas is the *only* m/m/m novel where I have been completely convinced by a triad relationship. I’m not even completely convinced by ‘Gemini’, although I loved it.

      I think it’s because in ‘The Strongest Shape’ the author shows that adding the third person to the relationship changes the dynamic between the two existing lovers for the better, and there’s a real sense that all three people in the relationship are individuals, rather than a couple plus one. I didn’t read this book expecting much, but I was really surprised by it. If you’re still looking for The One, this could be it.

  3. Lilli

    I agree with Ingrid and MaryM in that I prefer “traditional” romance with only two protags and in that I have yet to find my personal THE m/m/m book.
    911 is first position on my list to date but there is still room for more in my opinion. SM’s “Center” just wasn’t for me although I somewhat liked his “Braided” in the Velvet Glove ‘verse because I thought the dynamics were depicted in a really interesting way. What’s going on on the personal/character level was shown in the way they acted in general and also in what happened between the sheets.

    I guess that is what I want to read in an m/m/m: how exactly does it work and how do the protags benefit. Why do they sleep this way and not that? How do they compliment each other? And then, dear author, show me how this special mix can create something unique, and not only on the emotional level but also in the way this relationship weathers hardships, challenges, tragedies aso. (I hope I make sense… ;))

    In any case, I’m still very interested in stories with even more than 3 protags coming together because I find it fascinating to see how 3 or more interact within the frame of a relationship. (However you want to define that.)
    [I would have liked Jourdan Lane's "Soulmates" series more if the focus were on the interactions, dynamics and feelings of all those characters. But this is probably too far away from your original post, Wave.]

    So I really like good m/m/m and a new story always catches my interest but at the same time I’m very carefully checking out reviews and comments before I’ll spend my money on them. As Wave said, there’s too much bad stuff out there. But still, I consider it a treat rather than something I need all the time.

    1. Wave Post author

      Lilli
      I’ll answer your comments in order.

      >>I guess that is what I want to read in an m/m/m: how exactly does it work and how do the protags benefit. Why do they sleep this way and not that? How do they compliment each other? And then, dear author, show me how this special mix can create something unique, and not only on the emotional level but also in the way this relationship weathers hardships, challenges, tragedies <<

      911 is not just about the emotions but about what you mentioned – how they weathered hardships and tragedies (there was a major tragedy in the book and the way they bonded to help each other is what got me). To me that’s what a relationship is all about – being there in good times and bad.

      Center is not for everyone but I really liked it. I never got around to reading the Velvet Glove verse and I have been promising myself to read it soon – it’s not that I don’t want to, it’s simply a matter of finding the time.

      [I would have liked Jourdan Lane's "Soulmates" series more if the focus were on the interactions, dynamics and feelings of all those characters. But this is probably too far away from your original post, Wave.]

      I actually love the Soulmates series (the books are all reviewed on the site) which made my Top Ten in 2008. I threw out any idea of a committed relationship in this series since the book was about paranormals who are not known for being faithful (weres, vamps, satyrs) and just enjoyed the stories and the adventures. My perspective on these stories was not that they were M/M/M – they were just great stories. I have asked Jourdan several times when the next book is coming out because I can’t wait. :)

      Good M/M/M stories are indeed rare and I do hope that this new direction doesn’t mean that readers will be flooded with poorly written stories, which is exactly what happened when the first deluge of M/F/M and M/M/F menages appeared on the market.

  4. Tam

    I adore m/m/m and yes, I’m the one who thinks there is entirely too much cum amongst those twins and teacher (I have to say those books didn’t work for me, more the prosey style and lack of any plot whatsoever in the first book), but I love 9-1-1 and Gemini, both books I’ve read many times.

    I’ve read a few duds as well and some that are “okay”. I wouldn’t want to read it ALL the time though, so I hope it doesn’t become the norm. While it’s a nice concept in my brain I’m not sure how well it translates into reality and I do like some basis of reality in my books most of the time. I’d like to think that there really are HEAs out there more often than not. So for me it’s like a piece of cheesecake. I don’t want it everyday or it loses it’s specialness. And like cheesecake, some flavours are better than others. :-) (I can turn anything into a cheesecake metaphor I tell ya.) But I definitely prefer it to m/m/f or variations on F which as a general rule I don’t read unless it pops up on me by surprise.

    1. Wave Post author

      Tam
      I know that Center didn’t appeal to you but I’m a SM fan (I have another of his books to review tomorrow which you might like because there’s not as much sex) :)

      I think it might have been K.Z. Snow who mentioned some time ago that she knew of a menage which worked (or it could have been someone else on the thread) but I think there was a woman in the mix.

      If the stories are well written I don’t mind them and I quite enjoy them but I don’t want them to take over the M/M sub genre and become as common as M/M/F or M/F/M because then it will lose its specialness.

      Cheesecake huh? I never thought of using cheesecake as a metaphor for anything and now you made me hungry for a piece. :)

  5. Leslie

    I’ve read a few m/m/m stories–some of which I have reviewed here at the site–and they have had varying degrees of success for me. As with any other story, for me it mostly depends on the writing and the believability of the relationship.

    I think part of the reason why these stories are popular and surging (a bit) in popularity…a lot of readers (myself included) read for escape and a bit of fantasy. Three men together is sexy and hot although probably most of us never imagine actually being in that situation. But it’s fun to imagine and dream about. That’s part of the reason why I think BDSM stories are popular–they show a side of life that’s a bit forbidden, a bit exotic, but very sexy and hot. I also think that’s the reason that so many people complain that what is depicted is not “accurate.” I don’t think they are written to be an accurate depiction of the BDSM lifestyle–they are written to fuel our imaginations. Same with m/m/m. My 2 cents.

    L

    1. Wave Post author

      Leslie

      I agree with you about reading for fantasy and I do have quite a few M/M/M books in my collection. My concern was that there seemed to be a flood of these books within the past few months and it’s trending up. I hope that M/M/M doesn’t replace M/M. Maybe the increase is just a momentary blip but I don’t think so.

      >>That’s part of the reason why I think BDSM stories are popular–they show a side of life that’s a bit forbidden, a bit exotic, but very sexy and hot. I also think that’s the reason that so many people complain that what is depicted is not “accurate.” I don’t think they are written to be an accurate depiction of the BDSM lifestyle–they are written to fuel our imaginations. <<

      With regard to BDSM I have to disagree with you somewhat. Most authors who practise BDSM (James Buchanan, Claire Thompson etc.) tell me that they are very careful in their books to try and portray their scenes in a safe and responsible way. As a matter of fact James did a post here about BDSM because of a concern that readers will practise what they read in books by irresponsible authors and end up in hospital. There are many documented cases of this happening and responsible BDSM sites post warnings for newbies.

      Of course M/M/M is not quite the same situation although Blue Ruin is a BDSM series.

  6. Treva Harte

    I hope you like More. I think the menage here works — each guy brings his own strengths and weaknesses to the threesome to make it complete — but you can see for yourself.

    1. Wave Post author

      Treva
      I just started More and so far it’s looking good. What attracted me to this book was that there’s an actual story. I hope to post the review by the end of the week.

  7. thelastaerie

    Sorry Wave, this is a deal-breaker for me. Three is a crowd, not romance. I don’t even read menage as erotic scene, let alone romance.

    I remember deleting a couple of books from to-read list because I later found out (from other reviews) that it contains menage.

    Will be become a trend and do I care? I don’t mind if it becomes popular, as long as there are also enough m/m romance (sans menage.. lol) available. Everyone has their own poison, I choose mine with 2-men only. :)

    In fact, Chris Owen is one of the popular m/m writers that I don’t read… she’s so “notorious” with threesome! lol.

    1. Wave Post author

      Eve
      I quite understand where you’re coming from. If I hadn’t read 911 as my first M/M/M I probably would not have tried another threesome. We all have to decide what’s the line we want to draw in the sand – yours is M/M/M menages and mine is menages with females. :) I love Jet Mykles’ writing but I refuse to read and review her menage books

      I’m hoping that M/M books will continue to be released in large quantities so that they are not overshadowed like what happened with publishers releasing M/F/M and M/M/F in huge quantitites just a year ago (especially Ellora’s Cave for which this is staple).

  8. Tracey

    I don’t care for menage books. M/M/M, M/F/M, M/F/F or F/F/F…the sexes don’t matter. I’m not interested, not in the erotica, not in the romance.

    And I’ve noticed that in threesome stories, the story is often less about the relationship between the three and more about who is have sex with whom. That bores me VERY quickly. Sex is no substitute for plot and emotional development of characters. If all the characters are doing is fucking, I’m going to close the book and not open it again. If I want porn, I can find it on the Internet for free. Or, you know, write my own.

    I don’t care if threesome books become the next big thing or not. I honestly don’t get the appeal, but hey, to each his own. As long as there are m/m romances for me to read, it’s not an issue.

  9. Valkovalin

    What a great topic, Wave! I have a small fascination with m/m/m but only if it’s getting into the emotional dynamic of how (if) three men can live as a true “household of three”, and I couldn’t care less about group sex. You’re definitely right when you say that there aren’t many books that explore the emotional aspect.

    Two I read recently include Warriors and Healers by H. J. Brues which Jenre reviewed here, and “Burn Zone”, a story by James Buchanan in the Ready to Serve collection.

    In Warriors and Healers two guys who were sex buddies found that the addition of the third guy whom they were both in love with helped to bring their relationship emotional depth. In “Burn Zone”, two 20-something men, who were in danger of breaking up due to their emotional intensity and constant fighting, drew in a 40 year-old man who gave them stability and perspective.

    1. Wave Post author

      Val

      >>I have a small fascination with m/m/m but only if it’s getting into the emotional dynamic of how (if) three men can live as a true “household of three”, and I couldn’t care less about group sex. You’re definitely right when you say that there aren’t many books that explore the emotional aspect.<<

      My point is – keep the emotion, write a great story with characters we care about, and those of us who read M/M/M occasionally will buy these books. Just don’t let M/M/M books replace M/M. If introducing a third party helps the relationship then I don’t have a problem, with the caveats mentioned above.

  10. Wave Post author

    Tracy

    Thanks for commenting.

    >>I don’t care if threesome books become the next big thing or not. I honestly don’t get the appeal, but hey, to each his own. As long as there are m/m romances for me to read, it’s not an issue.<<

    As I said earlier to Eve, I understand your perspective – you don’t want to read about three men in a relationship.

    Too much sex in any romance whether it’s M/M or M/M/M with no plot and character development gets boring very fast. The reason I singled out M/M/M is that there have been many more of them over the last 3 months and I’m hoping that publishers don’t concentrate on these books to the exclusion of M/M romances. I read and review both and if the M/M/M is well written and there’s an actual story then I will rate it accordingly. For me quality is the name of the game and I hope M/M/M does not dilute the M/M brand.

  11. wren

    I second what Tam says. M/M/M (done right) is sort of a special treat, that becomes less special if there’s a glut of it. Maybe the surge you’re seeing is just that and it will even out once everyone has had a taste. If it were all great, it might become more popular, but I think there’s enough not-so-good writing in this category that readers will remember it almost always comes down to the quality of the story and the writing.

    1. Wave Post author

      Wren
      As I said earlier, if the quality of these stories is good I don’t mind, as long as the popularity of M/M/M does not eclipse that of M/M which I love.

      There are enough poorly written M/M/M stories which don’t have enough character development or emotional intensity between the guys and concentrate on the sexual aspect of the relationship. It’s bad enough reading M/M books that are almost 2/3 sex, but now we have a new theme (well not so new since it’s been around for awhile although not at the current level) which will probably have even more sex because there’s one additional guy involved in the relationshiop. When one protag is tired another one takes over. :)

  12. Aunt Lynn

    I’m with the others who have said that it ain’t my cup of tea. I’ve dipped my toe into the manage or more stories, so it’s not like I am dismissing them without even trying them. I don’t care what the combination of genders is, I don’t understand the dynamic. For me, much of the romance comes from something I understand, and like creature features, I don’t get more than two people in a relationship. I’m not judging here — if it works for you, then great (either reading about it or living it).

    And I’m with Eve when she says that as long as there are enough m/m romances around, I don’t care if it becomes a trend. I do care, though, when publishers lump ALL gay genre together, so I have to sift through pages and pages of m/m, f/f, menages of all flavors to get to the m/m books. Grrrr… It drives me freakin’ bonkers. I’m a librarian and I KNOW that there are better ways to catalog, and I’m a web developer, so I KNOW there are better ways to organize websites.

    1. Wave Post author

      Hi Lynn

      I do know how you feel about menages which is why I don’t send them your way. :) As you said so eloquently, you don’t understand the dynamic. For me it started with one book, 911, and I’m a fan if the book is well written and the characters and relationship are well developed.

      Cataloguing is a major issue with me. I don’t shop at EC for this reason, and as I pointed out in the comments to my review of Hide Out, unless a writer approaches me (and swears on a stack of something that the book is pure M/M) I don’t read and review their books. Readers have sent me EC recs. and I trust them not to steer me wrong. Maybe you could market your services to those publishers who don’t seem to understand their readers’ needs ( I’m joking!!!).

      M/M/M is definitely not for everyone and I hope that publishers don’t kill the golden goose (M/M) by flooding this market.

  13. Alexi

    I’m so sick of all the menage books out there at the moment. It’s not that I can’t like a menage book if done well – in fact, I agree about 911, I loved it, and Gemini as well – but I think that it’s incredibly hard to write a convincing relationship between two people, let alone three. If the story and characters aren’t *begging* to be a threesome, then I wish the authors wouldn’t do it. So often it just seems like a cheap gimmick. I’ve read so many bad m/m/m stories now that I don’t even try anymore, unless it’s an author I already know and trust.

    I hate, hate, hate it when a book which I thought was going to be a traditional m/m book suddenly pulls out a menage just to spice up the sex. I hate it even more when a menage seems incredibly uneven. I’m a Sean Michael fan, but I literally cannot bear to read his Jarhead books because I feel so sorry for poor Dick, who is clearly regarded by the other two (long-term lovers, who have something between them that Dick can simply never touch, and who expect to be left alone to celebrate their anniversaries) as a kind of really nice optional extra to their relationship. I long for him to walk out and find someone who puts him first, lives just for him, loves only him, not a couple who treat him like a lovable puppy/sex toy that happens to live with them.

    I think I can count on two hands the number of m/m/m books that I’ve been able to enjoy without rolling my eyes, and on one hand the number that really convinced me as a triad relationship rather than just two people adding a bit of spice to their pre-existing relationship (and Chris Owen gets two of those spots there).

    So I really hope this isn’t going to be a continuous trend in m/m. I only want to read m/m/m when the situation and characters simply could not be written any other way, not because it’s the next bandwagon to jump on.

    1. Wave Post author

      Alexi

      >> I think that it’s incredibly hard to write a convincing relationship between two people, let alone three. If the story and characters aren’t *begging* to be a threesome, then I wish the authors wouldn’t do it.< <

      I hear you about M/M/M romances. My preference is for two people in a relationship but it seems that many writers are giving us M/M/M stories that don't meet the minimum criteria about characterization and emotional content. If I want to read a book with a lot of sex I know where to go. I really want a credible story when I read M/M romances.

      >>I hate, hate, hate it when a book which I thought was going to be a traditional m/m book suddenly pulls out a menage just to spice up the sex. I hate it even more when a menage seems incredibly uneven.<<

      I haven’t continued with the Jarhead series for the same reason you mention. The relationship is unequal and Dick is just an extra body to be used whenever.

      Let’s all hope that M/M/M is an option and not a steady dose. I used to regard these books as a treat but now they seem to be standard fare.

      1. Alexi

        I agree about the treat thing. I used to get a little frisson of excitement when I saw a gay menage because it was something different – but that has swiftly turned into a sense of deep weariness. In fact lately I get excited at the sight of a straightforward m/m romance because somehow they seem to be an increasingly rare read in the GLBT genre. I’m like: ‘Ooh! A cover with only two torsos on it! It must be my lucky day!’

        1. Wave Post author

          You’re so funny Alexi

          >>In fact lately I get excited at the sight of a straightforward m/m romance because somehow they seem to be an increasingly rare read in the GLBT genre. I’m like: ‘Ooh! A cover with only two torsos on it! It must be my lucky day!’<<

          BTW I hate covers with torsos. I like to see faces but I understand why some readers like to imagine their own “guy” faces in the covers so they can stomp on them. :)

          Maybe this will be a tempest in a teapot, as you Brits say, and in 6 months it will die down to a dull roar.

          1. Alexi

            Why thank you. I do my best.

            Torsos on front covers is a whole other subject. Next week’s editorial topic, maybe? Why so many headless torsos on m/m covers? Give our men back their heads!

          2. Kendall

            I agree with Alexi–the headless horsemen covers needs a rant, I mean, post all its own. My visual imagination is horrible in that respect; give me faces! ;-)

  14. Mary Calmes

    If the m/m/m romance is done right I think it can be very beautiful. I just read Bound To Please and that was great and Bennet and Tachna’s Exploring Limits and now the next book in the series, Stretching Limits, shows how a true m/m/m relationship builds and the pieces that go into it. There will be six total books in that series so by the end the relationship will be rock solid.

    That all being said, All For One, another Bennet and Tachna starts out as a m/m/m book and ends as two couples in love and the way it’s done, with the HEA for both couples is very romantic and satisfying.

    1. Wave Post author

      Mary
      >>If the m/m/m romance is done right I think it can be very beautiful.<<

      Personally I don’t have a problem with M/M/M but the emotions and the characterizations must be at least equal to those that I would expect in an M/M romance.

      I haven’t read Exploring Limits – Jen is reviewing the book this week so I’ll wait to read her review. Did you say that there will be SIX books in total in that relationship? What on earth do they have to explore that will take 6 books to conclude? :) Just kidding.

  15. ElaineG

    I think that it really makes a difference in a M/M/M book if there is a true connection and actual emotion between all three…..The examples you pointed out are also among my favorites, and they just happen to be M/M/M! Sean Michael’s Jarheads series is another of my favorites, because of the dynamic between Rig and Rock and then Rig and Dick….almost two separate love stories within the M/M/M dynamic…not that there is no love between Rock and Dick, just not as passionate as between the other two “couples”….I also agree that girl cooties kinda ruin a M/M romance for me, with very few exceptions…as long as the M/M couple in the book actually love and WANT each other it doesn’t bother me too much, but I read very few M/M/F books simply because I want my “guys” to want each other more than anyone (read: girl) else.

    1. Wave Post author

      Elaine

      I think we’re all saying the same thing. The emotional connection is very difficult to pull off between three people as well as the same level of commitment.

      I don’t read menages with females even when the book is written by one of my favourite authors like Jet Mykles.

      >>Sean Michael’s Jarheads series is another of my favorites, because of the dynamic between Rig and Rock and then Rig and Dick….almost two separate love stories within the M/M/M dynamic…not that there is no love between Rock and Dick, just not as passionate as between the other two “couples”….<<

      The Jarhead series didn’t work for me because I found that Dick was more often the outsider in the relationship, and that’s the problem with some M/M/M books and series – the relationships are not equal.

  16. Feliz

    The m/m/m was something i found fairly late, and I’m of mixed feelings about it. There are great menage books, like the much mentioned 911 or “The Strongest Shape” (which I loved). But if there’s no reason for a third one, there is no reason to add one. And I’ll pass on more than three…I really can’t fathom how, let’s say five or six people can love each other equally. Surely there can be imagined some interesting sex, but can there be more? Five people can like each other fine, but love each other like a couple does?

    Sometimes I think the increasing number of three – ore moresomes comes in to titillate the readers with something new. Couldn’t it be m/m readers get jaded with reading about couples and bayed for new blood, so to speak?
    Maybe that’s the point. Many themes have become stale; even shifters of all kinds, vampires or fairies are not enough anymore that a book sells well regardless of its author’s writing skills. ;-)

    The more – than-twos I read recently were disappointingly often about the sex for sex’s sake – and, I’m sorry to say, often badly written. So I stay away from them now unless something else in the plot is interesting.

    1. Wave Post author

      Feliz
      Some of the time as a variation on this theme the third comes in for a short time and then leaves, but even then it doesn’t work except with a very skillful writer. M/M/M is very difficult to pull off because readers expect the same level of emotion and commitment from all of the men.

      If we want to read a sex filled book that’s what porn is for but that’s not a romance.

  17. Sherry F (from the Midwest)

    …..pretty much what most of the others have said. M/M/M are certainly not my first choice but have read some that I didn’t hate (but obviously nothing notable since I can’t come up with any titles). If it’s just to add “money shots” – uh, no. :-)

    1. Wave Post author

      Sherry
      My preference is for two men in a relationship, but sometimes M/M/M works and I’ve given examples of those that worked for me. For some readers this is a non starter and I can understand why. If it’s a real relationship, where their emotions are involved and the charcters are well drawn, that’s entirely different to M/M/M books that are all about sex.

  18. John

    I’m going to have to reread 911. I enjoyed it as well and I like the guy’s jobs, hot!

    I think I could stomach a m/f/m book if the second guy is mostly gay and is only having sex with the woman to eventually seduce the straight guy.

    I remember reading the blurb on an AmberQuill book about a man and a woman at a motel and the pirate ghost. I don’t remember the title or the author, but I almost bought it hoping the pirate would seduce the man into gay sex.

    Good topic Wave. I like 3some sex, but I need a well written plot too.

    1. Wave Post author

      Hi John
      I thought that 911 was the best in its class so far, but that’s just me.

      I can’t do M/F/M. I would read het before I read any more menages with females. As I said girl cooties don’t turn me on – I much prefer the guys. :) However, my concern is that M/M/M doesn’t replace M/M because I really like two guys together, and also the books must have a real plot and not be an excuse for more sex.

      Glad you approve of my choice of topic. :)

  19. Susie AKA Susilien

    Variety is the spice of Romance. Real love comes in all shapes and sizes.

    There are very few fat people romance, but I love nearly every one I have read. There are very few romances that involve people with disabilities, but they are usually jems. I also have comfort reads that are very basic and simple romances.

    I love variety in my protags, so people who are able to love more than one person and who can share more than one partner with full love can be wonderful. Are all people made that way, absolutely not.

    My answer, there is plenty of room for variety in my romance reading life.

    1. Wave Post author

      Susie
      I did a post about a year ago about the fact that there are very few diverse characters or ethnic minorities in M/M romance and everyone acknowledged that this was a problem. However nothing has been done to change this except in M/F romances.

      In the case of M/M/M I love some of the stories which have actual plots and three dimensional characters. I love M/M and I hope that this is a temporary glitch in terms of the number of M/M/M stories released recently. Right now there are 5 M/M/M romances waiting to be reviewed on this site alone, and I’m sure next week will bring more new releases.

      Variety is great as long as quality doesn’t suffer.

  20. Beck

    I quite like menage, so thanks for some of the new recs. I decided to follow up the AM Riley books as i have seen them rec’d before. I saw the hint about getting GAHTB from the Sony shop so decided to try that, and now I have to vent a bit as I am so angry at this sort of software.

    I’m not a computer whiz like some of you so when the store told me to download the reader software and authorise it etc I just followed the steps and only when I got to the checkout did it tell me that you need to be in the US or Canada to purchase! Worse than that, it turns out that I already had a version of this software to read some other books, and signing up to the Sony store wiped the other books I already paid for! I’m really cranky :(

    ok, vent over, but seriously just give me a plain pdf on my laptop rather than these reader things anyday. I guess I’ll wait for the Riley books until GAHTB gets repub’d somewhere else.

    Beck

    1. Wave Post author

      Beck
      Because I’m not familiar with Sony technology I was not aware of this problem. I’m really sorry about what happened to you. Did you lose all of your books by signing on for the Sony software? Did you not back up your books? Jenre has a Sony Reader and I will forward your comment to her to see if she has a suggestion about how to retrieve your books and I’ll ask her to post her comment here.

    2. Wave Post author

      Beck
      Please email me – I might be able to contact A.M. Riley about the book you lost and have her send you a copy.

  21. Jenre

    Sorry Beck, I can’t help you :(. I only use adobe reader on my Sony and I’ve never tried to use the Sony site to buy my books. I buy all my books direct from the publisher or at Are. I basically just use my Sony to store the books I’m reading or that are in my TBR pile and I keep the rest in files on my computer.

    Sorry I can’t be more helpful.

  22. scspaine

    I don’t see threesomes or any of the sub-sub-genres replacing the more common two-person pairings. It just seems to be the way romance/erotica books go.

    You see the same thing in M/F books as well… soon you have threesomes, foursomes, and then they start branching out into kinks, ethnicities, weight issues, career conflicts, paranormal, futuristic, historical and so on and on and on…

    I figure authors/publishers have clued in that we all really like the dueling dicks and now are giving us a bit of variety. Thank you and more, please!

    1. Wave Post author

      SCSPaine

      >>I figure authors/publishers have clued in that we all really like the dueling dicks and now are giving us a bit of variety. Thank you and more, please!<<

      This is really funny and maybe you’re right, it’s our fault. :)

  23. Kendall

    I love these posts of yours. I don’t think M/M is on its way out. I wonder if the seeming glut is a flash-in-the-pan, or if they’re truly becoming more popular (not just more common).

    Perhaps since I just devoured Bound To Please (which rocked!), I’m more open to M/M/M than before, but I still prefer a twosome. The other threesome I loved was Polar Reaction. It had lots of sex but also the emotional backstory/setup needed, and it addressed the menage problems head on and followed through on the emotions and plot.

    I’m still cautious about menages, though, having read a couple of shorter ones that didn’t work for me as well. Maybe they just need to be longer to develop the emotional side realistically for me. So I’m looking forward to your review of More! I read your review of 911 and will read the excerpt soon.

    I feel my tastes are still evolving. Right now, my perfect book is probably 400 pages with BDSM, spy/action stuff, lots of twists, an unhealthy dose of emotional damage and/or angst (perhaps some hurt/comfort), a small dose of paranormal, and M/M/M optional. Is this too muich to ask in one book?! ;-)

    Off-Topic: I love the cover of Gemini! If only my nipple ring looked that cool….

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