Today I’m interviewing author Lee Rowan on the blog. Lee has been published for 3 years and has 5 books to her credit as well as numerous short stories that have been included in anthologies. She has had and continues to have a distinguished career, winning an EPPIE for her historical novel Ransom.
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Lee what you would like to tell the fans and other readers about Lee, the writer?
I don’t write fast enough.

Ransom which is loved by fans won an EPPIE in 2007. What was it like when you heard your name called and knew that YOUR book was judged best in your category?
I was practicing my “graceful loser” face, and for a second it didn’t really register. Then the Linden Bay table shrieked in unison and I realized I’d heard right. It’s hard to describe how I felt because it was kind of an altered state –thrilled but almost numb because I didn’t quite believe it. The best part of winning was being able to thank people, especially my wife, for making sure the bills get paid and believing in me.
Your books are extremely popular. Can you tell us which one is your best seller? Which do you love the most?
I think Ransom is still the best seller, partly because it’s been out for nearly 3 years now. I suppose I’d say that the Articles of War (Ransom) series is my favorite because each book has been fun in a different way, but I’m very fond of Gent’s Gent because I love the Sherlock Holmes era… one of my earliest historical fandoms, I started reading those when I was about twelve.

What drew you to write mostly historical books rather than contemporary romances? Do you find historical books more challenging to write in terms of getting the period, dress and speech right?
Well, it’s probably because the more time I spend in the 21st century, the less I like it. Which is silly, because as a woman, especially a glbt woman, if I had to live in the restricted world of Jane Austen’s ladies I’d probably run amok sooner rather than later. But I like the slower pace of life in earlier eras, the fact that people had to pay attention to the seasons, that they thought about what they meant to say before they started writing. I like the idea of living in a time when someone who gave his word to a friend knew that he was expected to keep it. (I’m not talking about politicians, of course; some things never change.) There’s not enough sense of personal honor these days. “Winning is the only thing” seems to have replaced the idea of being a gracious winner, a graceful loser, and an honorable competitor.
As for getting things right… in some ways, if you’re willing to do the research, it’s actually easier to write historicals because everyone who lived at the time is long dead. I don’t think anyone gets everything perfectly right, no matter how hard they try. My biggest near-blooper was in my one contemporary, Walking Wounded–I was going to have a big crash-bang finale along the shore in Portsmouth, in the dead of night, but Charlie Cochrane, bless her, did a Brit-pick edit and pointed out that the places I had walked in 2002 were now a block of ‘posh flats’… I’m sure my books have errors, but I hope they’re not insurmountable.
Two of your characters that I wish you would bring back are Lord Robert Scoville and his right hand man Jack Darling in Gentleman’s Gentleman, one of the stories in Speak Its Name, Trilogy No. III. I remember you promised to write another story starring these two Victorian gentlemen but alas, nothing has been released as yet.
That’s because I haven’t had a chance to write them yet, I’m sorry. Those gents are alive and well in my imagination, and there’s a very short piece on the backburner, where Robert gives Jack a surprise for his birthday or Christmas. I do mean to get back to them in a more serious way after the next Ransom book.

You are one of 4 authors who signed recently with Running Press, a subsidiary of Perseus, a NY publishing house which is doing a huge promotion across both sides of the Atlantic of M/M historical romances starting in April. I believe your book is called Tangled Web and will be released later in the year, after Erastes’ Transgressions and Alex Beecroft’s False Colors. Tangled Web is set in peacetime–1816, just after the wars are over, which is different from the previous 2 books. The main characters are Brendan Townsend, the youngest son of a Viscount, and his eldest brother’s former commanding officer, Major Philip Carlisle. What else can you tell us about the story?
Tangled Web is about a young man finding his path and an older man realizing his life did not end when he lost his wife and child. Brendan is the far end of the Kinsey scale–he’s a good friend to his younger sister, but is simply not attracted to women in a sexual way. He falls into a convenient arrangement with his college roommate, Tony (who seduces the inexperienced Brendan with very little effort) but after they’ve graduated Tony gets himself into a dangerous mess and turns to Brendan, expecting him to fix it–but Brendan not only can’t do what Tony asks, he can’t really explain the situation to his family. His older brother, never guessing what a hot potato Brendan is juggling, sends him to Carlisle, and the poor boy is love-at-first-sight thunderstruck.
Carlisle suffered a tragic loss years earlier, blames himself, and has resolved never to marry again. He doesn’t realize that his willingness to help Brendan stems from anything more than generic goodwill. At first he doesn’t realize Brendan is gay, either, but when he does he begins to become aware of a side of his nature that he thought he had abandoned in adolescence.
This book is a deliberate attempt to do something new in a couple of directions. When I went to the Toronto Queer Literary Festival last year, I asked the guys who stopped at the Macaronis table what sort of stories they’d like to see. Several asked if I had written anything that wasn’t about military men, and many of them, older gentlemen, asked if I could suggest any books with characters over 40. I enjoy Georgette Heyer’s work and have a fair number of books on the Regency period, so I decided to try my hand at civilians (Major C is out of the service at this point) and make one of them an older man. That’s been interesting, too–contrasting Brendan’s youthful elation and despair with Carlisle’s steadier, more experienced view of life.
Your historical stories seem to have a common thread of triumph against almost insurmountable odds. What is it about this theme that made you want to capture it in books? Along with this thread of beating the odds you add the complication of men who love other men in a historical period where they are reviled. Do you think that your readers are drawn to your stories because they, too, hope to beat the odds of today’s complex issues of prejudice in whatever form it may take?
I hope so! I honestly believe that the saddest thing anyone can do is give up their dreams without even trying–because I know from experience that what looks hopeless might not be. I’m a cynic about a lot of things, but I also believe in heroes, and I think people need stories that give them characters who are flawed but trying to live up to what’s best in themselves, not settle for what’s easiest. I don’t define “hero” as someone with super-powers, but someone who is willing to do the right thing even when it’s easier, safer, or more profitable to sell out. Whatever they may do for a living, my heroes have a core of personal integrity. I think my readers must be okay with that, or they wouldn’t keep reading.
Two of your best known protagonists are David Archer and William Marshall who starred in Ransom, Winds of Change and now in your most recent release, Eye of the Storm. What is it about these two characters that fascinate you so much?
Parts of Ransom have a lot of personal meaning for me, and I think those two characters have the most obvious bits of my own personality–Davy’s smart-ass attitude, Will’s protectiveness of those he loves. Is it corny to say I think they deserve a happy-ever-after where they don’t have to be shot at all the time? I’m not sure a happy ending is just two people finding each other; as I get older, I think it’s being able to stay together, work out the problems, and remember what they love about each other.
You must have done an incredible amount of research for your historical books. How did you recreate a specific historical period in your books with such accuracy, recounting the details about the ship and the lives of the men during that time so that they seem so real?
Two words: Patrick O’Brian. I learned more from that gentleman’s fiction (and a couple of reference books on the series) than from any other single source. I’m also incredibly lucky to know a writer who volunteers on a tall ship and kept me from making a horrible blooper in Eye of the Storm (thanks, Marie!) But a lot of the research isn’t really work, in the sense of a task I’d rather not do. I’ve always been fascinated with sailing ships, and earlier times–if I had my life to live over I might study history, because it’s true–people do keep making the same mistakes over and over.
Most of your books are M/M but you have also written a few M/F. Some of the M/M writers I talk to say they have a great deal of difficulty switching from M/M to M/F and they invariably stick with one or the other because they can’t seem to get the love scenes right. Did you have any problems with the switch? If so, how did you resolve your issues?
When my gay friend A read an early draft of Ransom, he asked how I knew what sex felt like for a man. That kind of surprised me, because I was just writing what good sex felt like, with a few physical details altered. I think people make a big issue about human differences and sometimes forget that our bodies all have basically the same set of sensory and receptor nerves. I write human beings, focusing on the emotional and sensual aspects rather than getting very
anatomically specific.
Sometime last week I read an interview with actor Jamie Bamber. The question was about his looks, and he replied, “Maleness is about doing things–providing, hunting and gathering, feeding your family, making things happen–rather than gazing at yourself.” If he’s right, I guess I’m writing from my inner male POV, even about female characters; Zoe and Cynthia are not fainting damsels. They live within their social limits, but, like my heroes, they stand up and act when they must.
The only issue I’d say I have about m/f love scenes is that so many of the words for women’s personal bits are either clinical, excessively agricultural (her ‘moist secret garden’) or have a sleazy tone because they’re so often used as pejoratives. I write mostly about male characters because the traditional “male” role is what I enjoy writing about. My characters are human/individual/gender, and their occupation and other details come after that. The only variety of character I’d have trouble writing is the sort of woman whose main interest in life is collecting expensive, uncomfortable shoes. I cannot relate to that at all!
In addition to writing novels, you have also written novellas and short stories for inclusion in anthologies. Is it more difficult to write short stories? If so, why?
Not usually, though if Sail Away should go out of print I would probably rewrite Captain’s Courtship as a full-length novel or a trilogy of novellas; Cynthia’s younger brother has a story of his own, and Cynthia’s voyage back to England and assimilating into wartime England is another story in itself. Some stories are just intrinsically brief. Castaway and Gift Exchange are only interludes in the Articles of War story arc. It has been a stretch doing a full-length book for Running Press after the 50-60K books for Linden Bay
M/M romance seems to be carving a niche for itself within the erotic book industry. How did you become a historical M/M writer and do you find it easier to write historicals than contemporaries?
It wasn’t deliberate; I just wanted to write an Age of Sail story and realized that it was essentially a romance. Sheer luck on the timing. I do find historicals easier because I like to play with English and I think educated people spoke more elegantly in earlier times. I also think historical fic wears better in the long run. If you read a contemporary book written 10+ years ago, some details are incredibly dated. (I’m thinking of Robert Parker’s excellent Spenser detective stories. The earlier ones are still great mysteries, but when the 1st-person narrator describes his own natty dress or his lady’s fashionable attire, the humor distracts from the whodunit.) If a story is set in 1801, a gentleman of fashion will wear breeches and stockings, and there’s no need to worry about how it will read in 2009 or 2029. Instead of being outdated, it’s antique.
What is your greatest achievement as a writer?
Making a difference. When I hear from a reader whose worldview expanded, like the reviewer
whose first m/m book was Ransom and was indignant that the characters could be executed for loving each other by a country they were willing to die for… That’s what makes me feel that I’ve accomplished something significant. Given ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ and the gays and lesbians murdered even today by their “brothers” in uniform, I think those of us writing m/m have a unique opportunity to bring more awareness of the stupidity of discrimination.
The other great gift is the chance to give gblt readers characters they can identify with. E-books are fantastic for that; there are still gay and lesbian kids in small towns who literally do not have anyone they can come out to. I can only imagine what my own adolescence would have been like if I’d even been aware that there were other girls who just didn’t find most boys all that interesting. Being able to widen someone’s horizons or create hope… that’s the greatest achievement I could hope for.
Oh, and there’s the “I Do!” project, but that’s Alex Beecroft’s creation and a group effort, though I’m proud to have been a part of it.
On a personal note, how are you finding living in Canada, (in Ontario specifically) having spent most of your life in the US? Have you recovered as yet from the culture shock? *g* Other than the dollar which has been in a steep decline recently, what do you think are the main differences between living in the 2 countries?
I love Ontario, though I do wish our yard had at least one big old tree. We had only 2 days to house-hunt, and with a dog and 4 cats, renting in Ontario is the same as in Ohio–difficult! But it was worth the upheaval to have equal civil rights and legal recognition of our marriage. Kudos to Canada! I miss many of my friends, and my status as a licensed massage therapist. The worst culture shock was the metric system in all its aspects. A July forecast of 23 degrees–! Or remembering that 50kph is only 35 MILES per hour… The weather is fun for scaring Stateside friends (going down to 15 below tonight, brr…)
The main difference is that Canada seems to have a lot more common sense. National health care may not be a perfect solution, but giving people flu shots saves millions of $ in wasted work time and general misery. I’ve seen more real public service announcements here in a year than in the 20 years previous in Ohio–reminders not to waste electricity in the summer, to go easy on the yard chemicals to protect wildlife– and more sensible official programs, like including recycling as part of trash pickup and the new ‘green bins’ for uncompostable organic waste. I’m just not used to the government doing sensible things! The only thing I’m not crazy about is the high cost of new books; I’ve sometimes had books shipped to my mother-in-law and brought them back under my duty-free allowance. Of course e-books help there, too. Oh, and there’s Canada Post. Even Canada is bound to make a few mistakes and I think privatizing the postal system was a gold-star blunder.
HAVING FUN WITH LEE
I like to throw in a few fun questions which I hope the authors will answer:
Shoot!
So if you weren’t an author what do you think would be another career option for Lee Rowan? Maybe you would like to go back to the past and do a stint in one of your ships, in disguise of course since women were not allowed on board ship?
Flagpole sitter! No, I would not want to serve on one of His Majesty’s ships. (Have you ever read the Articles of War?) Bathing in cold salt water, astonishingly awful food (salt pork, salt beef, salt horse biscuits you could use as projectile weapons, no birth control or antibiotics or proper dentistry… NO NO NO! The people of the time didn’t know any different, so they could just get on with their lives, but I would miss my indoor plumbing and toothpaste. I love the romance of history, but I would NEVER want to live there!
Imagine yourself as one of the high born ladies of the period – What do you think you would spend your leisure time doing, after you were presented to society?
Making a rope ladder to climb out the window and escape. I’d sell my jewels and go live in the middle of nowhere… Innesfree, here I come.
Is there a question about yourself that you have never been asked but have been dying to answer?
Oh, yes. The answer is “What are you offering?” (The question is, “Will you sell us the movie rights to your book?”)

Do you think there’s any truth to the rumour that men used to stuff their breeches to appear well endowed?
It’s only a rumour? Hell, yes, I’m sure they did. I don’t think there’s a time when men haven’t augmented their assets. And to be fair, I’m sure women have done the same; the straight-front corsets practically put a lady’s assets on a tray for inspection by a grateful public. If you look at farthingales, bustles, and codpieces from various eras, I think some of the proto-fashionistas carried the notion a little too far.
Tell us one fun thing about Lee?
NEW DOG!! And she is BEAUTIFUL, housebroken, and usually respects the cats. I’m getting back to walking every day because she pesters me if I don’t. (She’ll be with us at Mediawestcon in May, dog willing.)
Thank you Lee.
Thank you! Great questions!
I really appreciate Lee taking the time out of her very busy schedule to answer my questions about her writing. She was very charming and didn’t get mad at the number of questions I sent over.
On another note, I would like to personally thank Aunt Lynn for doing such an outstanding job on all the reviews of Lynn’s books. I think she deserves a raise. *g*
Lee Rowan Contact Information
website: www.lee-rowan.net
email: lee.rowan@yahoo.com
http://lee-rowan.livejournal.com
http://historicromance.wordpress.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speakitsname


















At the risk of being first – I’m waving pom poms! Excellent interview Lee, and a really fascinating insight into your process!
I would like to echo Erastes (who seems to be an early bird
sentiment. Excellent interview, very insightful questions. And yes, a sequel to Gentleman’s Gentleman would be perfekt
Christian
Excellent interview Wave and Lee. I have not read any of Lee’s books but you know I’m really trying to get expand my horizons into historical so I’m sure it will happen.
I literally laughed out loud at the Canada Post comment. Soooo true. The price of books annoys me too. When the dollar went up it took 6 months to a year to lower the prices. When the dollar went down it took about 6 hours to raise them again. Grrrrrr.
Great job guys.
Erastes
I was going to compliment you on getting up early and then I realized that it’s mid afternoon where you are. Thanks for dropping by.
Christian
As always, thank you. It’s getting harder and harder to come up with original questions to ask the authors.
I have been trying to get Lee to write a sequel to Gentleman’s Gentleman since I read this story and I hope it won’t be too long.
Tam
I only started reading historicals about a year ago and became almost as hooked as I am with fantasy.
If you want to start with something easy try Speak It’s Name Trilogy No. 111 which gives you a sense of 3 periods in history and as well allows you to sample the writing of 3 authors, Lee, Erastes and Charlie Cochrane. Gentleman’s Gentleman is the first book I read by Lee and I absolutely loved the characters. Here a link to my review of this book –
http://reviewsbyjessewave.blogspot.com/2008/06/speak-its-name-trilogy-no-iii.html
Umm, I have that. I haven’t read it yet. *hanging her head in shame* But I DID read Lessons in Love yesterday based a lot on Christian’s review of the second one (which I have ready to go). I really enjoyed it so there is hope for me yet.
I’ll get to it, I swear, its just hard for me. (whine whine whine)
Excellent interview Wave and Lee! I honestly couldn’t tell Wave that you may have struggled to come up with the questions as they seem so unique and specific to each author.
I especially love the comment from Lee about her writing great sex, not necessarily m/m sex. And how she’s writing about people and their sensibilities. I haven’t had a chance to read any of her work yet but with a few comments, she just shot to the top of my TBR list. Now to figure out where to start with her backlist..
Thank you!
Good morning, Lee and Wave.
Wonderful interview…great questions and very insightful answers.
I’ve only read one of Lee’s books, Walking Wounded, but I loved it and plan on picking up your historicals. I’m intrigued by the wonderful reviews Lynn has done for them.
You know I realize I say that I plan on reading a lot of books at some point in the future. Maybe I need to take a month-long vacation from work and writing to read all the books I’ve written down.
Tam
You should be ashamed – come to think of it, I recommended SIN to you a couple of months ago. I know you have to have a life but until you find one, books are an excellent substitute for sex, speaking from experience here.
Kassa
It’s always difficult to ask new questions, which is why I have to read at least a couple of the author’s books before I interview them. I know that the readers don’t want to read the same old questions regurgitated and sometimes I have a brain freeze.
In terms of which book to start with try Speak Its Name (see my answer to Tam above with a link to my review). In addition, Lee has a contemp. Walking Wounded which was reviewed in early February that you might like.
TA
Thanks for the kind words.
All you have to do is go on a cruise or a vacation (although cruises are better for reading) to catch up on all the books you want to read.:)
Hi! Wave, this is gorgeous–THANK YOU!
Kassa, the best book to start with in the Articles of War series is Ransom–Winds, Eye of the Storm, and Sail Away all relate to that book.
I really understand the TBR dilemma… Tangled Web is the Book that Ate my Life, and I’ve hardly read anything either.
Got to go pick up catlitter–I’ll be back in an hour or so!
Lee
You’re very welcome. It was my pleasure.
Aunt Lynn did a lot of the heavy lifting as well in terms of writing the reviews. (She must really like your books to put in all this effort).
This is her best work to date!
Excellent interview, Wave and Lee! I really love the Ransom trilogy – and yes, Lee needs to write faster
I was not reallly into historical romance (well, I could take recent history like WW1 & WW2 or the civil war but usually avoid older period), but Lee Rowan and Erastes completely changed that for me.
Plus I am quite partial to hot guys confined in tight space like a battle ship
I will second Wave's recommendation of Speak Its Name Trilogy 111, it's a great collection.
Hi Eve
Great to see you again and it took Lee to bring you out of hiding!
I’m trying to twist Lee’s arm about the follow up to Gentleman’s Gentleman. One of my first historicals was Captain’s Surrender by Alex Beecroft ad I was hooked, then I read Speak Its Name and I never looked back. Lee’s books came next and what can I say about her writing that hasn’t already been said. Outstanding.!
Heehee.. I wasn’t in hiding, I just got back from a short break.
OT, but I owe you a big thank you for recommending Victor J Bains’ Deadly Nightshade and Deadly Wrong – I was hooked! I finished both in record time. And I hope there’s a 3rd one coming soon.
I am also currently reading “Tigers and Devils” by Sean Kennedy, courtesy to your recommendation (over at dreamspinner), I love it so far… even though I know next to zero about Aussie football, there are enough similarities in terms of team rivalry and the sentiment to English football (which I follow), for me to relate to it. Great blog.
Great interview, Lee and Wave
And I will wave pom poms for ‘Tangled Web’, of which I’m lucky enough to be having a sneak preview. Lee’s best yet, I think!
Hi Alex
Thanks for coming by.
It’s great to see you and I envy you having a sneak peek at Tangled Web. I can’t wait.
Eve
I’m glad my recs. worked out for you on Deadly Nightshade and Deadly Wrong. Yes there is a third book coming but I don’t know the release date. But for sure you will see the review on the blog.
Kris stole Tigers and Devils from me, the little sneak. *g*
TW hasn’t even been edited yet – but I can’t send it off without begging for a Britpick from some literate Brits. There’s bound to be at least one howler in there somewhere.
Terrific interview, Lee and Wave! I too loved the comment about Lee’s just writing about great sex. This is a great perspective.
So I just read all of Lynn’s reviews… holy crap she’s been busy. I was going to be rude and ask where the review of Speak Its Name, but I see it's already been reviewed on the site. I admit to being tempted.
BTW, Eve, I so did not steal T&D from Wave. I politely asked her to hand it over or else. *g* Glad that you're liking it.
Kris
Thanks for the nice nice about the interview. Lee was a great person to interview.
I kept Lynn’s nose to the grindstone (kidding)!! She has been writing these reviews for some time – it was the posting date that had to be scheduled with the interview.
Speak Its Name T III – I did that review sometime ago when the book was released.
Oh re T & D – I wasn't given a choice. Sean felt so guilty about your heavy handed tactics he has offered a couple of his books as donations for the blog birthday. *g*
Yay! I love Lee Rowan’s books so much- she writes the most adorable characters.
Very excited to hear about Tangled Web- hope it’s out sometime this year.
- CDNS
Great interview! And great reviews by Lynn. Ransom was the first m/m romance that I read back in 2007. Loved the characters and pacing. It pulled me in and I wanted more and more and more! Looking forward to Tangled Web. It sounds like my kind of read. I do like a good May-December romance.
To answer a comment above, Tangled Web is scheduled for this fall, I think September.
The first two books in the new Running Press M/M Romance line are Transgressions by Erastes and False Colors by Alex Beecroft, both due this coming April 13. They are both much more serious in tone; I think TW will only have one or two dead bodies…
Lee/Wave
Late to the party again. Lee, I think I know you well, but every interview I read adds more to the picture. Love the bit about how men think and the hunter gatherer mentality lingering. (Also love that picture, which makes you look about 35.)
And every time I’m down by the sally port I think of you and your lads.
Charlie
Good lord, I forgot to post this yesterday with keeping track of the comments on the five reviews! Sorry all!
Fabulous interview, ladies, and thanks to everyone who had kind words about the reviews. As you can tell, I love the Articles of War series muchly, plus I had reviewed Walking Wounded highly, too. Now I need to read Speak Its Name and I look forward to Tangled Web.
Again, great job.
Excellent, insightful interview, as usual.
Hi Charlie
You try to make out that you’re very busy when we all know you’re just playing with your men
Thanks for the nice words but all the work was done by Lee.
Lynn
Yes, sure. Wait a whole 24 hours to tell Lee how much you liked her interview. She might forgive you. *g*
Thanks for the compliment Jeanne. I do appreciate it and I know that Lee will be by soon to respond to comments.
Lee
I’m posting this for Mary M.who is totally P.O’s with Blogger because she tried 3 times to post and it won’t let her. She does seem to have a lot of problems with Blogger.
Thanks for this great interview! I’ve read several of Lee Rowan’s books and loved them, especially Ransom and Winds of Change. These two were among the first 5 M/M books I read and several dozen books later they’re still in my top 10.:)
I liked what Lee said about the elegant speech in times past and the intemporality of historical novels – I wholeheartedly agree. And I feel both principles were wonderfully applied in Ransom – the writing was an art in itself, with all those sailing and sea analogies that added both originality, elegance and depth to the style, and it didn’t feel like a contemporary written historical, the kind that takes place in the past but where characters have 21st century personalities and snarky humor. I enjoy those, too, but it was almost refreshing to see a somewhat old-fashioned historical that felt true to the time
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I love hearing that Canadiens have common sense
. There are days I look at Harper and don’t agree, but I think in general the canadian society is more socialist and a bit more open than the United States. Still a lot of progress that could be done, though, but we’ll get there.
Oh, and I’m totally sure men stuffed their breeches, too. If women used corsets to push up their breasts and I stuffed my bra as a teen, I don’t see why men wouldn’t do, and have done, the equivalent *g*. Hell, if there was a full-page ad in my newspaper this morning for some potion made from a seed discovered in Amazonia that promises to enhance penis size – so the demand’s got to be there
Can’t wait for Tangled Web!
Mary M.
To Mary M -
I agree, Harper leaves a lot to be desired (my friends here call him “Bush in a Parka”) and the White House IQ has risen exponentially since November–but I still get the impression that the Canadian government seems to think it has some responsibilities towards its non-wealthy citizens. (And Canadians seem far more aware of politics and ready to tell their elected officials when they aren’t doing their jobs).
I hope you like “Eye.” Now that Tangled Web is off to the editor, I’m starting to organize the next Will/Davy story, and it’s going to be a long one.